@jp
I actually really liked the information, thank you for posting that
@waton
You know I didn't really think about it that way, and you're right, it is a distortion of words that were written, going beyond what is written
Jules Saturn
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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching
by Jules Saturn inso this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.
to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.
david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.
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JW Rumor: End of the Traveling Overseer
by Edison Trent ina friend of mine has contacts to a family with several circuit overseers and special pioneers.
they have good connections to bethel.. he told me that the latest rumor from bethel states that the cos should be abolished in their present form.
they have also recently begun to take cos back to bethel.. over the same channel i have already heard of the car fleet program and that the dos should be abolished.. has anyone else already heard of it?
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Jules Saturn
If this is true I'd expect an announcement at the annual meeting coming this weekend
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J.W.'s reliance on Matthew 24:14
by The Fall Guy invirtually every j.w.
will gladly tell you that matthew 24:14 proves that only they are god's true people/religion, because they are the only people preaching the good news worldwide today.
crucially, they double-down on this lame bet by adding that their worldwide preaching proves another wtbts teaching, namely, that we are living in "the last days.
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Jules Saturn
Wish this was posted a few weeks ago before my shepherding call!
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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching
by Jules Saturn inso this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.
to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.
david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.
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Jules Saturn
@Vanderhoven7
Thank you for all of that information, very useful and appreciated.
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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching
by Jules Saturn inso this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.
to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.
david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.
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Jules Saturn
What do you think is the future of this? They can't keep this teaching. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Splane said something about how the generation could go as long to the point where it's possible that Witnesses can read about the current GB in a future updated version of the Proclaimers book, but basically implying that it can carry on for another 30 years until it has to be revised again.
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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching
by Jules Saturn inso this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.
to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.
david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.
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Jules Saturn
That's so weird, because every Witness I know swallows it up and believes it firmly. I know there isn't anything in the scriptures to imply that there is an overlap of some sort but more than the Org trying to look for secondary fulfillment on something that was fulfilled already.
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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching
by Jules Saturn inso this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.
to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.
david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.
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Jules Saturn
So this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if I'm wrong. To me, the JW definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now. David Splane used the example of Fred Franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today. Makes sense right? I've always thought that JWs could always make something that doesn't make sense sound logically and perfectly sound. And this is one of those teachings for me. In the past I've tried to reason with some that in that scripture in Matthew where Jesus is talking about the generation, he's talking about the generation that would live to see the signs before the second destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Then they'll respond that Jesus wasn't referring to that generation. Can someone sort this out? Why doesn't this teaching make sense? A bit confused here.
~Jules
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Waking up to TTATT: Blessing or Curse?
by Jules Saturn inif you take the red pill, you'll have knowledge, you'll be awakened, aware of reality, you'll have freedom.. if you take the blue pill, you stay in your bubble, wearing rose colored glasses, and feel security in an illusion.. taking the red pill isn't something that's easy to do.
to accept that everything around you is an illusion built up on lies or half truths.
but hey, it might feel good to be aware and break free from this illusion.
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Jules Saturn
@All or nothing
I'm glad all of you could wake up, thank you for sharing that experience
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Waking up to TTATT: Blessing or Curse?
by Jules Saturn inif you take the red pill, you'll have knowledge, you'll be awakened, aware of reality, you'll have freedom.. if you take the blue pill, you stay in your bubble, wearing rose colored glasses, and feel security in an illusion.. taking the red pill isn't something that's easy to do.
to accept that everything around you is an illusion built up on lies or half truths.
but hey, it might feel good to be aware and break free from this illusion.
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Jules Saturn
@Incognito
Well I'll be completely honest, I feel like I've always had doubts, like for me it was hard to be convinced that I was in the one true religion and try to convince people of that through field service. But I've always had questions, I was always questioning stuff by nature. There were some concepts that I wasn't aware about and it wasn't until that time that I started to actually research deep into this.
Honestly though thank you for those words, I didn't look at the way you mentioned. You're absolutely right, I think I was better off taking the red pill now than years later.
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Waking up to TTATT: Blessing or Curse?
by Jules Saturn inif you take the red pill, you'll have knowledge, you'll be awakened, aware of reality, you'll have freedom.. if you take the blue pill, you stay in your bubble, wearing rose colored glasses, and feel security in an illusion.. taking the red pill isn't something that's easy to do.
to accept that everything around you is an illusion built up on lies or half truths.
but hey, it might feel good to be aware and break free from this illusion.
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Jules Saturn
If you take the red pill, you'll have knowledge, you'll be awakened, aware of reality, you'll have freedom.
If you take the blue pill, you stay in your bubble, wearing rose colored glasses, and feel security in an illusion.
Taking the red pill isn't something that's easy to do. To accept that everything around you is an illusion built up on lies or half truths. But hey, it might feel good to be aware and break free from this illusion. But is it? Because while you've taken the red pill, your friends, your family are still taking the blue pill. So now, you're alone and now you don't have anybody because they most likely will NEVER take the red pill.
As I type this, it has been a year since my doubts on the Org began to grow and I began researching and researching. Then the 2016 Presidential Election happened. And I was sure that the Great Tribulation was going to start soon. That's what I was hearing all around me. My parents were saying it, my friends, all the speculation. And I was frightened. I didn't want to be left out of the ark, or be outside of the "bunker" or basement, however you want to call it. But then January 2017 came and I still continued my research, it wasn't until then that I had finally woken up.
It was such a crazy experience, like removing headphones and looking to your left and right and seeing a whole bunch of smiling faces and nodding during the meetings and the thunderous applauds during an assembly over a young child getting baptized, dedicating the rest of their life, to this.
But see now I feel stuck, I question if all the research was worth it? Was I better off having taken the blue pill? Stay in the illusion, the fantasy? Keep my family and friends and marry a sister and raise young JW children the same way I was raised and indoctrinate them? Continuing to live with a chain and ball attached on my leg? I have no doubt that all of this psychologically messes a person up. See because now I've taken the red pill, and I can't go back, I can't take the blue pill, and because of that I can lose my family and friends. It's really sad isn't it? Anybody else every think about this?
~Jules